Okay i have such positive feedback already this is like....a huge upgrade from old grove especially the inventory and combat mechanics. I'm so excited to see more updates and continue to play as they come out! 10/10!!
While I may not need to send you guys a comment, I want to absolutely make sure you know how I feel about the demo so far.
Literal 10/10 everything is SO good.
But what I love most of all is the hidden fluff text pieces that have *multiple* fluff text pieces. Not only is the writing excellent and is everything I love in fluff text examinations, but having multiple to browse through helps with immersion and the feeling of examining the environment closer. THere's SO much to examine and I love that.
I also appreciate that the writing is fairly snappy, so it not only gets across information, but also doesn't actively give me paragraphs of windows of text. One of the beautiful parts of multiple examinations is being able to press the button to re-examine as desired rather than just getting stuck in a novel.
Thank you so very much for the praise! The writing is my contribution to the game and I've intentionally tried to keep it snappy and focused, so it means a lot to know there's folks like yourself who really enjoy it and think so highly of it, from the fluff to the smut.
The "background objects irrelevant to main story have description" part always has been a hallmark of well made RPG Maker games for myself, wanted to just one-up the OP that those descriptions matter and make the game world so much better. Thank you!
Np. I love it. You did extremely well. <3 Good writing can help bring a universe to life, and writing is more than just text, it's also in the environmental storytelling and how everything is arranged. Everything can tell a story if arranged properly.
I digress though. The fluff text has been incredible and I'm so excited for more.
The more I play tested the special build the more I disagree with people saying the grapple element makes the combat less engaging. To me, it creates a strong incentive to defeat enemies because now you actually need to put in some effort to beat them; in the past it was just a stats check. At the same time, it spices up the punishment when we fail and makes the stripping of armor feel natural and involuntary. Looking back, I find it funny because I always purposely strip and surrender whenever I encounter a new mob, which is kind of contradictory to what an adventurer should do. Yes, there is a learning curve, but honestly, it’s not that bad. Plus the grapple element makes enemies feel more vivid and interactive. But I do see why people are saying that and perhaps I can share some thoughts to point it out:
1.Remember the grapple element states — Charm, Molest, and Strip? In the current build, there’s no difference in punishment when the player fails a grapple. I understand that enemies are performing multiple inputs, but in this case, it breaks the immersive rhythm of the combat. Maybe the enemies can choose one element as punishment? For instance, charm punishment costs you more stm, strip deprives one more layer of armor, and molest triggers some special debuffs and moves?
2.The current combat contents are leaning heavily towards the first half, where in struggle stage there isn't much gameplay content. Since you already developed QTE, I believe using it in struggle stage can possibly be a great idea as struggle movements are typically intense.
Please don't design the grapple element as if it is an add-on inside the combat system!!! It is like listening to a new song where you need to give it a second try to truly appreciate it. Throughout the years I played Grove, this is the first time I’ve been genuinely motivated by a challenging gameplay experience and felt a strong desire to win a battle!!! You two are doing a great job, and I hope you stay confident in your design!!! :3
Thank you for the kind and positive encouragement and feedback for the grapple systems! Sadly not everyone agrees with your sentiment, which is why we are going to keep it largely optional... but for the folks like yourself that do enjoy it, we'll try our best to continue to improve it and make it even more engaging.
The grapple triangle reminded me of a Japanese adult game called Ultimate Fighting Girl 2, whose real time combat minigame is an RPS QTE 'attack/defend/break' - where if your opponent attacks, you guard, if they guard, you break their stance, and if they move to break your stance you attack, with a little sliding scale based on how much you 'charge' your action between rounds. Worth checking because I found the UI of that game very pleasing to use.
So this demo kind of felt like a 'can i copy your homework' type deal (likely unintentionally, as RPS isn't a unique concept) but the words used made it very unintuitive to come up with a mnemonic (molest beats stripping?) and also don't really fit the cutscene (is the tent enemy molesting, charming, or stripping as it tries to facefuck me???)
and so I ended up just memorizing the color sequence...so it's kind of immersion breaking in a way because it feels like an abstracted intrusive minigame rather than me as the player 'struggling' or 'grappling'...
Also like the character inventory/map/etc menus felt a little laggy as it pops open, probably just tech demo things. All the same, wish the best with this project!
I think Molest, Strip, and Charm are for the enemy, because they can initiate grapples too. So you’re actually countering by restraining your armor when stripping, avoiding the molest, and striking when they charm. You aren't molesting enemies NONONO.
The New rework is great! Love the new graphic and arts. I hope the amount of the arts not decreasing compere to the original Grove arts. about the story, is it going to be different from the original one, since all Gimp encounter is have different story and dialogue. The Gameover scene is always the best, Can't wait to see other slime gameover!
but with the amount game you develop right now, I'm afraid it's gonna take longer to even finish reworking all of the update.
It's a nice tech demo. I did have trouble a couple times with saving in a given room: if there's an event in there or something, it'll just lock saving in that room entirely it seems. Perhaps you can save in that room if you exit and reenter after clearing the event, I didn't test for that. Along the same lines, I'd prefer as a player to not be put in these positions of wanting to lose a given fight once but having an unskippable cutscene right before said fight with no chance to save between the cutscene and the fight. The inn location was a notable example of that, where you can only realistically have a save in the screen prior and have to watch both the imps running around cutscene and also the struggle tutorial over again.
I also second what another comment here said: the green slime fight was trivial to constantly get up from, 25 stamina with the current stamina regeneration was too low. I could just continuously spam 'get up' after purposefully seeing how many times I could afford to get up after a knockdown, I think I was able to do so 5 times at least? I gave up trying after that.
Otherwise I love the new engine and the possibilities it introduces! <3 Looking forward to more for sure.
It's free for you to test, but I cannot confirm whether 32 bit is supported with MZ games. For reference, the engine requires a 64-bit computer to run - RegalBuster
After I defeated the little devil the second time and entered the lounge, was the game over? Besides challenging the slime in the wardrobe, there's nothing else to do in the room.
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I always liked the way that you would slowly lose resources(hp, armor, tp, and then stamina) as you journeyed, so my only 3 complaints are:
1. If you are good at the grappling segments then you are never in any danger. You can throw yourself at any enemy and as long as you are quick enough you will never lose stamina.
2. Tp acting as a second wind in combat makes sense, but 25 tp to avoid being at 0 hp seems a bit cheap. I would expect at least 50 tp.
3. My game would sometimes lag when sprinting, so at some point optimization will be needed.
Other than that, the writing is always great, the sprite work has significantly improved, first person POV(first imp scene) for some scenes and trap tiles(the hands) seem like great additions, and I am excited to see the development of this game.
I am very happy to see the news of your update, after playing this beta version, I obviously feel that your technical skills have improved a lot, I like your work very much, I hope the official version will be done as soon as possible
I hope your game can be more interactive with all the background characters, allowing for some fun with them without game overs, occasional events, quests, and including more stories and lore. This includes some background characters as well.
I have to say, this game looks phenomenal, especially with the new graphics and combat mechanics. I'm curious to see what the whole thing will look like when it's released. But once again, great job by the creators of this amazing game.
Such a Great Demo and has me majorly excited and wanting to join the subscribestar site to support the game. Love the new grapples and ways to react I ALWAYS CRAVED More of these in games and you guys are top notch. SO Majorly excited and cannot wait to play it when is offically remade because first ever game like these i played and my favorite alongside Prowler. Kinda Curious if there is any Plan to tie Both games together would be so cool to see the chief of Prowlers and maybe him as a companion with scenes if somehow ended up here trying to find leads of his people.
Major Question is How much is the main subscribestar places tier to test these demo builds because i wanna support that tier or more.
AND THANK YOU to YOU and YOUR TEAM for these MASTERPEICES and SO MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT to you all for Being the very best
Their Subscribe-Star Page says the "Super-Sponsor!" - Tier at 8.50 USD gives access to it - and the higher ones, too, of course. https://subscribestar.adult/posts/2167704
Since the current .exe-file doesn't have the icon.png's cool Icon implemented and shows up with the Standard RPG-Maker Symbol, I just used GIMP to export a quick Windows-Icon-file from the png in the Icon-folder (which is awesome since under Linux the PNG-file is much more useful for the Launcher - which is run through/with the compatibility layer there anyway until you "bake" a native Linux version of this one, too at least - there) and manually changed the Shortcut's image to the actual Game Icon that way, so it doesn't look so generic on the Desktop 😏 😜 .
Unfortunately I cannot upload it, but I think even Paint or any other simple Image Processing Program (like IrfanView, for example) should be capable of exporting an .ico - version of an image, I'd reckon.
This was a lot of fun. Love the tfs we got. Love the art Grove looks so good. Thanks for the awesome test build. Can't wait to see what else you all have cooking
I think if this 3 button grapple system is introduced in the full game, perhaps the starting area could only have 2 choices, one or the other to introduce players who may not be able to memorize the combinations right away. Adding the third, or even fourth in more difficult areas/enemies.
I myself am mediocre at rhythm games, where you press the same color/symbol, but mapping one color/symbol to another from the start whilst under tension breaks my brain for whatever reason.
I have found it easier to map the color to the direction I need to press, rather than to another color/symbol. Check color, press direction. A simpler thought process than perhaps: color -> color -> direction, and having the chance of getting the colors mixed up. Cutting out the middle step of that whole triangle/circle.
Like, the left color (purple) when used by the enemy requires a blue (up) is much more difficult than right color (orange) when used by enemy is simply the directionality opposite color (purple).
But even as I typed that all out I just realized a simpler method would be to take the color of the enemy and using it's default direction (purple/left) and make a clockwise rotation to (blue/up) in the grapple menu.
============= tl:dr New system broke my brain, but spending time to think it through and not getting attacked by strange goopy things has come up with effective strategy/understanding.
============= Misc Questions/bugs
Are the "hand" traps supposed to have the same grapple direction/color (orange) instead of random or is that intentional since they're a common "encounter"?
The door renders above Grove's head at the first building by the tent.
We're definitely thinking about adjusting the 'Grapple Triangle' so it goes clockwise instead of anti-clockwise. Though it might seem like a small thing it seems to have thrown a few people off. So yeah, we'll be adjusting that down the line.
And yes, the Hand Traps are meant to be a bit simpler. The enemies are more variable.
the new content is so good!!! quick question though, everyone keeps mentioning a third encounter with altars, is that part of the subscribestar specific build or am i just dumb?
I really enjoyed this, it was really well done I think. I am curious though as to where the game will start, like when will it start from at the beginning or from where the last version ended or some other point?
Absolutely love the new content!!! However, I would like to ask: is my screen getting stuck on the tent near the Inn for the grappling tutorial intended? It would pan right over to the tent one of the imps escapes to, then stays there; the view would no longer move alongside Grove :<
No problem. This combat isn't replacing the prior style, it's just a new form of interaction for people who prefer 'action' commands rather than turn-based.
In the full game, both options will be available for a player and if they don't like one or the other, they'll be able to largely avoid it!
That's great news, because for me, the "action-based" combat increases my dis-stress-levels quite significantly more than the turn-based one, where I can enjoy the gayme much more/better. Despite your "losing scenes" being worth seeing and enjoying, after the x-th time, you know the "joy" is gone and replaced by utter frustration!
And for those who aren't as quick in their perception and sensual processing anymore, I think it's really great to know, you implement the "old" round-based system again, too. Because this way, those who seek the "thrill", can add it, but those who'd rather not, aren't bothered by it and still can enjoy the most important part of the gayme: the story and all the naughty scenes then, too.
Gatekeeping them with certain reaction times necessary would be really inaccessible and diminishing the enjoyment for those less "quick" in their hand-eye coordination for whatever reason (disability, age, [chronic] illness .... cognitive decline can have so many reasons).
I'm glad you're keeping that part of your audience engaged, too, since you plan to have both kinds of gameplay choices present in the final gayme.
Btw, will you continue the 1st part of Grove further, too is is that considered "finished" (since version-wise it stopped at 0.30x if I remember correctly?) and discontinued development-wise (since you showed-off your code-cleanup in comparison to this new one, I was wondering about that)? - I mean, if someone had the "muse" to help you clean-up / transition the code to the new format/convention, would that be an option for you or not?
Cheers and looking forward to the new story and where our sexy dragon will be dragged to now❣️ Hope he also gets at least one or two possible "Happy Endings" with his fellow sexy hunks of dragon-bros❣️Mindless bliss has its perks but mindful one, too, after all 😏 😜
Thanks for the great test!! Maybe I'm just bad at it, but when I was being chased by the final enemy I pressed "E" to activate the three altars, but nothing happened and it was just a game over. Am I doing something wrong?
Oh, you guys cooked with this one! The new art and tilemaps look so neat and polished, the grapple mechanic feels nice and fluid, and I really appreciate the out-of-dialogue-box area interaction and timer mechanics (which I also really liked in Prowler and Snake:Byte, super glad to see them here too)! Also the one-handed controls are very muchly appreciated ;)
All in all, a very smooth, fun and sexy experience, and I'm very eager to see further development of this!
This game really good. But I think I found a bug. I tested the green slime fight and the armour keeps breaking, but it does remove the armour from Grove.
Finished playing, and I can only say, I'm so proud of you guys, the art style, the controls, everything is so polished and sexy as usual. The new grapple mechanic was difficult at first, but after I got a trick, there were only treats for me ^^
Btw, the "secret" at the end is looking very polished, excited to see how it'll be at the next release.
We don't have any plans for a Patreon I'm afraid, given the content of our games and how the site can crack down on that kind of thing without any notice.
Sorry about that, but we appreciate your desire to support us!
Wait, does Patreon also offer payments with bank accounts?If so, that would be actually safer for you, since Payment Processors for Credit Cards were targeted by those harassing lobby groups, which wanted to take down adult content again! So, anyone with a different processor than those far too powerful credit card corporations, is actually safer for you to post your Gayme/s on, I would reckon!
I love your stuff and hope these idiots in charge don't push adult content back into illegality because then, it would still exist, but in even less transparent and easily traceable online presences, if you get my drift. But, since people seem to love to vote idiots in charge these days once again (it's a historical pattern after all), who knows, right? It's a gamble either way, but finding a platform, that offers your content to not be linked to payment processors, that threaten to not forward your income from your work, would be a smart move then.
And if Subscribestar offers only Credit Card Payments, your choice might not be as safe as you deem it, unless Subscribestar doesn't forward information about what kind of content its platform members create to the Credit Card Corporations, then you might be fairly safe, until someone "puts a (legal!) gun" (metaphor!) to Subscribestar's legal team and tries to coerce them to do that, of course.
Whatever the reason, I think finding a platform, that allows for international bank accounts to pay for the content, would be smartest, if that even exists (can't think of one right away myself, but know a few payment processors certainly offer that option, too - but not sure if they're limited to the continents of their legal registration/s or not. That stuff is intentionally made very confusing, methinks.).
Still, until something bad happens and Payment Processors or these annoying lobbyist groups who pressured them int he first place (from Australia they were, if I remember correctly?), it's not much safer than here on itch.io, I'd reckon. And I'd certainly think, platforms also try to protect their creators as good as possible since fictional adult fantasy is usually a way to experience things most people know are dangerous and/or self-destructive trying in reality, but that doesn't diminish the immersion into the Fantasy. Of course, some people are dumb enough to not make that distinction and then might end up in the ER or worse sadly, but that's sadly an educational problem at best and just people "winning" "Darwin Awards" at worst.
So, yeah, humans are weird and exploring this weirdness in a safe, virtual Fantasy-Environment is wayyyyyy better than trying that in reality (I've seen News-Articles about people having tried and it didn't end well for them, to say the least.).
But the very definition of an "adult"/"(emotionally and otherwise) matured" human being, is that they have the cognitive capacity to actually make that important distinction, i.m.h.o. - and maybe the best way to "proof" it, would then be: have them fill out a survey about this important distinction and corporations would be legally off the hook basically. Those dumb enough to just "find the right answers" to gain access and then still act dumb, aren't their problem then anymore, I guess. I know, it sounds cold, but that's how this legal and corporate part of our world works. It's logical and subject to "good enough" implementations that show an effort to protect people from themselves. But, ultimately, a person, who is bent on trying, no matter the cost to themselves, will be crazy enough to circumvent any such "protective measures". And that important fact about human behavior also needs to be taken into account.
"People gonna dumb" ... in all the ways possible for them (some of which we might not even be able to imagine ourselves yet!) So, eventually finding a reasonable measure for trying to protect people from themselves should be legally good enough for anyone involved in such campaigns - because protecting kids is indeed important, but doing that non-intrusive to mature human beings, is a challenge, I can imagine. Might even be normal to have your eID checked at some point in the future, after all. Just hope it's not gonna be a fascist one, where this kind of "tracing" opportunity is abused to try and shame people publicly or something. Maybe it'll also force Morals to finally become less prude though, who knows? - The denial of consensual sex-positivity for religious reasons has been a bane on humanity for a few centuries at the least, after all...and it feels like we have to change this, if we want our species to survive and not annihilate itself by creating a World, that doesn't incorporate our entire humanity, but only allows for parts of it. Ironically, those screaming loudest about limiting that, not surprisingly are also the greatest secret deviants and just get off on making it harder for everyone to get their rocks off, I hypothesize (we could call it a Sociopath's "Systemic Violence" kink maybe? 😏 ).
If you have Discord, and you can purchase our other games here on itch.io here's what you can do:
Purchase a copy of Prowler, or Snake:Byte and donate $4. That'll be equal to the same amount as the special build.
Take a screenshot of your receipt so we know it's you. Then send that screenshot to "regalbuster" on Discord. Then we might be able to give you a link to the file.
I already own Prowler. Is there a away how I can still donate with out buying the game again? I am personally not interested in snake:byte as it dose not fit in my preferences. If not I probably have to wait until I can buy the game when you are ready with it someday.
I THINK you can just chose to buy another copy of Prowler even if you own it. You don't need to download it afterwards, you can just ignore that. You could gift a copy to a friend too, if you'd like.
Either way works fine by us just as long as you share the receipt.
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No linux yet??? :,)
Not yet! Hopefully over this weekend or early next week!
it works pretty well in wine tho
Okay i have such positive feedback already this is like....a huge upgrade from old grove especially the inventory and combat mechanics. I'm so excited to see more updates and continue to play as they come out! 10/10!!
Thank you so much, wonderful to hear you think it's an improvement all around!
While I may not need to send you guys a comment, I want to absolutely make sure you know how I feel about the demo so far.
Literal 10/10 everything is SO good.
But what I love most of all is the hidden fluff text pieces that have *multiple* fluff text pieces. Not only is the writing excellent and is everything I love in fluff text examinations, but having multiple to browse through helps with immersion and the feeling of examining the environment closer. THere's SO much to examine and I love that.
I also appreciate that the writing is fairly snappy, so it not only gets across information, but also doesn't actively give me paragraphs of windows of text. One of the beautiful parts of multiple examinations is being able to press the button to re-examine as desired rather than just getting stuck in a novel.
Thank you so very much for the praise! The writing is my contribution to the game and I've intentionally tried to keep it snappy and focused, so it means a lot to know there's folks like yourself who really enjoy it and think so highly of it, from the fluff to the smut.
The "background objects irrelevant to main story have description" part always has been a hallmark of well made RPG Maker games for myself, wanted to just one-up the OP that those descriptions matter and make the game world so much better. Thank you!
Thank YOU for taking the time to spare the kind words~!
Np. I love it. You did extremely well. <3 Good writing can help bring a universe to life, and writing is more than just text, it's also in the environmental storytelling and how everything is arranged. Everything can tell a story if arranged properly.
I digress though. The fluff text has been incredible and I'm so excited for more.
Really hope there's more pov of the mc doing the corrupting somehow in the future
Making smaller games to perfect certain features and skills is actually something recommended for game devs. Plz no Parries/I-frame Rolls.
Don't worry, we've not got any plans for anything like THAT, haha
The more I play tested the special build the more I disagree with people saying the grapple element makes the combat less engaging. To me, it creates a strong incentive to defeat enemies because now you actually need to put in some effort to beat them; in the past it was just a stats check. At the same time, it spices up the punishment when we fail and makes the stripping of armor feel natural and involuntary. Looking back, I find it funny because I always purposely strip and surrender whenever I encounter a new mob, which is kind of contradictory to what an adventurer should do. Yes, there is a learning curve, but honestly, it’s not that bad. Plus the grapple element makes enemies feel more vivid and interactive. But I do see why people are saying that and perhaps I can share some thoughts to point it out:
1.Remember the grapple element states — Charm, Molest, and Strip? In the current build, there’s no difference in punishment when the player fails a grapple. I understand that enemies are performing multiple inputs, but in this case, it breaks the immersive rhythm of the combat. Maybe the enemies can choose one element as punishment? For instance, charm punishment costs you more stm, strip deprives one more layer of armor, and molest triggers some special debuffs and moves?
2.The current combat contents are leaning heavily towards the first half, where in struggle stage there isn't much gameplay content. Since you already developed QTE, I believe using it in struggle stage can possibly be a great idea as struggle movements are typically intense.
Please don't design the grapple element as if it is an add-on inside the combat system!!! It is like listening to a new song where you need to give it a second try to truly appreciate it. Throughout the years I played Grove, this is the first time I’ve been genuinely motivated by a challenging gameplay experience and felt a strong desire to win a battle!!! You two are doing a great job, and I hope you stay confident in your design!!! :3
Thank you for the kind and positive encouragement and feedback for the grapple systems! Sadly not everyone agrees with your sentiment, which is why we are going to keep it largely optional... but for the folks like yourself that do enjoy it, we'll try our best to continue to improve it and make it even more engaging.
The grapple triangle reminded me of a Japanese adult game called Ultimate Fighting Girl 2, whose real time combat minigame is an RPS QTE 'attack/defend/break' - where if your opponent attacks, you guard, if they guard, you break their stance, and if they move to break your stance you attack, with a little sliding scale based on how much you 'charge' your action between rounds. Worth checking because I found the UI of that game very pleasing to use.
So this demo kind of felt like a 'can i copy your homework' type deal (likely unintentionally, as RPS isn't a unique concept) but the words used made it very unintuitive to come up with a mnemonic (molest beats stripping?) and also don't really fit the cutscene (is the tent enemy molesting, charming, or stripping as it tries to facefuck me???)
and so I ended up just memorizing the color sequence...so it's kind of immersion breaking in a way because it feels like an abstracted intrusive minigame rather than me as the player 'struggling' or 'grappling'...
Also like the character inventory/map/etc menus felt a little laggy as it pops open, probably just tech demo things. All the same, wish the best with this project!
I think Molest, Strip, and Charm are for the enemy, because they can initiate grapples too. So you’re actually countering by restraining your armor when stripping, avoiding the molest, and striking when they charm. You aren't molesting enemies NONONO.
This guy's got the right idea!
The New rework is great! Love the new graphic and arts. I hope the amount of the arts not decreasing compere to the original Grove arts.
about the story, is it going to be different from the original one, since all Gimp encounter is have different story and dialogue.
The Gameover scene is always the best, Can't wait to see other slime gameover!
but with the amount game you develop right now, I'm afraid it's gonna take longer to even finish reworking all of the update.
There'll be just as much artwork, if not more in the complete Rework. And we'll also be making some minor tweaks and improvements to the story, too.
We are confidant it'll be worth the wait! Please be patient and we hope you'll enjoy the finished product.
Good to know! Can't wait to see more of Grove updates!
It's a nice tech demo. I did have trouble a couple times with saving in a given room: if there's an event in there or something, it'll just lock saving in that room entirely it seems. Perhaps you can save in that room if you exit and reenter after clearing the event, I didn't test for that. Along the same lines, I'd prefer as a player to not be put in these positions of wanting to lose a given fight once but having an unskippable cutscene right before said fight with no chance to save between the cutscene and the fight. The inn location was a notable example of that, where you can only realistically have a save in the screen prior and have to watch both the imps running around cutscene and also the struggle tutorial over again.
I also second what another comment here said: the green slime fight was trivial to constantly get up from, 25 stamina with the current stamina regeneration was too low. I could just continuously spam 'get up' after purposefully seeing how many times I could afford to get up after a knockdown, I think I was able to do so 5 times at least? I gave up trying after that.
Otherwise I love the new engine and the possibilities it introduces! <3 Looking forward to more for sure.
We're looking into the save issue, as whilst it's not a huge problem in a short demo like this, we don't want it happening in the full game of course
That aside, thank you very much for the feedback and the positive words!
Is it possible to play it on a 32.bit version PC?
It's free for you to test, but I cannot confirm whether 32 bit is supported with MZ games. For reference, the engine requires a 64-bit computer to run
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After I defeated the little devil the second time and entered the lounge, was the game over? Besides challenging the slime in the wardrobe, there's nothing else to do in the room.
That is everything for the public version.
If you're interested in checking out more content and more enemies, we have a special version available on our SubscribeStar! Do check it out if you'd like :)
I always liked the way that you would slowly lose resources(hp, armor, tp, and then stamina) as you journeyed, so my only 3 complaints are:
1. If you are good at the grappling segments then you are never in any danger. You can throw yourself at any enemy and as long as you are quick enough you will never lose stamina.
2. Tp acting as a second wind in combat makes sense, but 25 tp to avoid being at 0 hp seems a bit cheap. I would expect at least 50 tp.
3. My game would sometimes lag when sprinting, so at some point optimization will be needed.
Other than that, the writing is always great, the sprite work has significantly improved, first person POV(first imp scene) for some scenes and trap tiles(the hands) seem like great additions, and I am excited to see the development of this game.
Also the imps are hot~
Thank you for the feedback, we're still working on balancing the combat so this helps.
Otherwise, glad you seemingly enjoyed yourself so much! Thanks for taking the time to play and to leave some suggestions!
I hope your game can be more interactive with all the background characters, allowing for some fun with them without game overs, occasional events, quests, and including more stories and lore. This includes some background characters as well.
Do the pilons just instantly turn themselves off for anyone else in the hotell?
You need to hold your interact key when standing near them. Hold E or Space or Enter.
hotel?
I can't sponsor through Subscribestar. Are there any other sponsorship methods available?😭
I'm sorry, we don't have any other methods right now, but we appreciate the gesture...!
It's a pity there's no other way, but your game is fantastic. I'm really happy to see new content and hope to play more in the future.
Such a Great Demo and has me majorly excited and wanting to join the subscribestar site to support the game. Love the new grapples and ways to react I ALWAYS CRAVED More of these in games and you guys are top notch. SO Majorly excited and cannot wait to play it when is offically remade because first ever game like these i played and my favorite alongside Prowler. Kinda Curious if there is any Plan to tie Both games together would be so cool to see the chief of Prowlers and maybe him as a companion with scenes if somehow ended up here trying to find leads of his people.
Major Question is How much is the main subscribestar places tier to test these demo builds because i wanna support that tier or more.
AND THANK YOU to YOU and YOUR TEAM for these MASTERPEICES and SO MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT to you all for Being the very best
Their Subscribe-Star Page says the "Super-Sponsor!" - Tier at 8.50 USD gives access to it - and the higher ones, too, of course.
https://subscribestar.adult/posts/2167704
Thank you so much for letting me know.
Will it be avaible for MacOS?
In a few days time once we iron out the issues with the Windows version. Then we can hopefully upload an issue-free MacOS version.
Thank you for your patience!
Also a Linux-one again, since you're at it? 😏🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️
Hopefully, yes!
Since the current .exe-file doesn't have the icon.png's cool Icon implemented and shows up with the Standard RPG-Maker Symbol, I just used GIMP to export a quick Windows-Icon-file from the png in the Icon-folder (which is awesome since under Linux the PNG-file is much more useful for the Launcher - which is run through/with the compatibility layer there anyway until you "bake" a native Linux version of this one, too at least - there) and manually changed the Shortcut's image to the actual Game Icon that way, so it doesn't look so generic on the Desktop 😏 😜 .
Unfortunately I cannot upload it, but I think even Paint or any other simple Image Processing Program (like IrfanView, for example) should be capable of exporting an .ico - version of an image, I'd reckon.
This was a lot of fun. Love the tfs we got. Love the art Grove looks so good. Thanks for the awesome test build. Can't wait to see what else you all have cooking
Thanks for playing, and for the kind praise all around!
I think if this 3 button grapple system is introduced in the full game, perhaps the starting area could only have 2 choices, one or the other to introduce players who may not be able to memorize the combinations right away. Adding the third, or even fourth in more difficult areas/enemies.
I myself am mediocre at rhythm games, where you press the same color/symbol, but mapping one color/symbol to another from the start whilst under tension breaks my brain for whatever reason.
I have found it easier to map the color to the direction I need to press, rather than to another color/symbol. Check color, press direction. A simpler thought process than perhaps: color -> color -> direction, and having the chance of getting the colors mixed up. Cutting out the middle step of that whole triangle/circle.
Like, the left color (purple) when used by the enemy requires a blue (up) is much more difficult than right color (orange) when used by enemy is simply the directionality opposite color (purple).
But even as I typed that all out I just realized a simpler method would be to take the color of the enemy and using it's default direction (purple/left) and make a clockwise rotation to (blue/up) in the grapple menu.
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tl:dr
New system broke my brain, but spending time to think it through and not getting attacked by strange goopy things has come up with effective strategy/understanding.
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Misc Questions/bugs
Are the "hand" traps supposed to have the same grapple direction/color (orange) instead of random or is that intentional since they're a common "encounter"?
The door renders above Grove's head at the first building by the tent.
To be clear, the game is amazing and wonderful as many other comments have made clear. I'm just a huge nerd lol.
We're definitely thinking about adjusting the 'Grapple Triangle' so it goes clockwise instead of anti-clockwise. Though it might seem like a small thing it seems to have thrown a few people off. So yeah, we'll be adjusting that down the line.
And yes, the Hand Traps are meant to be a bit simpler. The enemies are more variable.
the new content is so good!!! quick question though, everyone keeps mentioning a third encounter with altars, is that part of the subscribestar specific build or am i just dumb?
The "altar" is indeed something related to the subscribestar specific build.
Thank you for the praise on the public version content though!
will the "alter" version become public? or will it remain a subscribestar specific build?
We're not sure... I'm going to say "probably not". But if we do make it public, it'll be several months from now at the very least.
I really enjoyed this, it was really well done I think. I am curious though as to where the game will start, like when will it start from at the beginning or from where the last version ended or some other point?
The Rework will start from the beginning of the game, retracing similar steps but with new mechanics and new art!
Absolutely love the new content!!! However, I would like to ask: is my screen getting stuck on the tent near the Inn for the grappling tutorial intended? It would pan right over to the tent one of the imps escapes to, then stays there; the view would no longer move alongside Grove :<
Please redownload in your own convenience, we believe we have fixed this issue!
Oh dear it seems I completely missed the hotfix; thank you!
GROVE CONTENT GOOD <3
the art and exploration looks a lot better. however I find the combat to be less engaging compared to the previous RPG combat.
No problem. This combat isn't replacing the prior style, it's just a new form of interaction for people who prefer 'action' commands rather than turn-based.
In the full game, both options will be available for a player and if they don't like one or the other, they'll be able to largely avoid it!
That's great news, because for me, the "action-based" combat increases my dis-stress-levels quite significantly more than the turn-based one, where I can enjoy the gayme much more/better.
Despite your "losing scenes" being worth seeing and enjoying, after the x-th time, you know the "joy" is gone and replaced by utter frustration!
And for those who aren't as quick in their perception and sensual processing anymore, I think it's really great to know, you implement the "old" round-based system again, too. Because this way, those who seek the "thrill", can add it, but those who'd rather not, aren't bothered by it and still can enjoy the most important part of the gayme: the story and all the naughty scenes then, too.
Gatekeeping them with certain reaction times necessary would be really inaccessible and diminishing the enjoyment for those less "quick" in their hand-eye coordination for whatever reason (disability, age, [chronic] illness .... cognitive decline can have so many reasons).
I'm glad you're keeping that part of your audience engaged, too, since you plan to have both kinds of gameplay choices present in the final gayme.
Btw, will you continue the 1st part of Grove further, too is is that considered "finished" (since version-wise it stopped at 0.30x if I remember correctly?) and discontinued development-wise (since you showed-off your code-cleanup in comparison to this new one, I was wondering about that)? - I mean, if someone had the "muse" to help you clean-up / transition the code to the new format/convention, would that be an option for you or not?
Cheers and looking forward to the new story and where our sexy dragon will be dragged to now❣️
Hope he also gets at least one or two possible "Happy Endings" with his fellow sexy hunks of dragon-bros❣️Mindless bliss has its perks but mindful one, too, after all 😏 😜
It seems like when on Document case, you can move a bit to the left and right, and up and down if you hold it long enough!
That's illegal
Thanks for the great test!! Maybe I'm just bad at it, but when I was being chased by the final enemy I pressed "E" to activate the three altars, but nothing happened and it was just a game over. Am I doing something wrong?
Make sure to hold the button down!
Long press solved it! Thank you!!
for the first 2 attempts you have to tap repeatedly. for the 3rd encounter you have to press the counter ONCE.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh, you guys cooked with this one! The new art and tilemaps look so neat and polished, the grapple mechanic feels nice and fluid, and I really appreciate the out-of-dialogue-box area interaction and timer mechanics (which I also really liked in Prowler and Snake:Byte, super glad to see them here too)! Also the one-handed controls are very muchly appreciated ;)
All in all, a very smooth, fun and sexy experience, and I'm very eager to see further development of this!
Thanks very much for the positive feedback, and of course for checking it out in the first place!
This game really good. But I think I found a bug. I tested the green slime fight and the armour keeps breaking, but it does remove the armour from Grove.
my NNN r gonna be so much harder aaaaaaaaaaa ahem goodgame as always ❤️❤️ (p.s.should i end NNN now or do it till the end?🥲)
Terribly sorry about that... heh.
I love the game and the imps(my beloved)
Finished playing, and I can only say, I'm so proud of you guys, the art style, the controls, everything is so polished and sexy as usual. The new grapple mechanic was difficult at first, but after I got a trick, there were only treats for me ^^
Btw, the "secret" at the end is looking very polished, excited to see how it'll be at the next release.
Thank you so very much for the kind words, and for giving the new controls a fair shake, we really appreciate it!
will you get patreon? i dont have a credit card so i cant use Subscribestar
We don't have any plans for a Patreon I'm afraid, given the content of our games and how the site can crack down on that kind of thing without any notice.
Sorry about that, but we appreciate your desire to support us!
Wait, does Patreon also offer payments with bank accounts?If so, that would be actually safer for you, since Payment Processors for Credit Cards were targeted by those harassing lobby groups, which wanted to take down adult content again!
So, anyone with a different processor than those far too powerful credit card corporations, is actually safer for you to post your Gayme/s on, I would reckon!
I love your stuff and hope these idiots in charge don't push adult content back into illegality because then, it would still exist, but in even less transparent and easily traceable online presences, if you get my drift.
But, since people seem to love to vote idiots in charge these days once again (it's a historical pattern after all), who knows, right? It's a gamble either way, but finding a platform, that offers your content to not be linked to payment processors, that threaten to not forward your income from your work, would be a smart move then.
And if Subscribestar offers only Credit Card Payments, your choice might not be as safe as you deem it, unless Subscribestar doesn't forward information about what kind of content its platform members create to the Credit Card Corporations, then you might be fairly safe, until someone "puts a (legal!) gun" (metaphor!) to Subscribestar's legal team and tries to coerce them to do that, of course.
Whatever the reason, I think finding a platform, that allows for international bank accounts to pay for the content, would be smartest, if that even exists (can't think of one right away myself, but know a few payment processors certainly offer that option, too - but not sure if they're limited to the continents of their legal registration/s or not. That stuff is intentionally made very confusing, methinks.).
Still, until something bad happens and Payment Processors or these annoying lobbyist groups who pressured them int he first place (from Australia they were, if I remember correctly?), it's not much safer than here on itch.io, I'd reckon.
And I'd certainly think, platforms also try to protect their creators as good as possible since fictional adult fantasy is usually a way to experience things most people know are dangerous and/or self-destructive trying in reality, but that doesn't diminish the immersion into the Fantasy. Of course, some people are dumb enough to not make that distinction and then might end up in the ER or worse sadly, but that's sadly an educational problem at best and just people "winning" "Darwin Awards" at worst.
So, yeah, humans are weird and exploring this weirdness in a safe, virtual Fantasy-Environment is wayyyyyy better than trying that in reality (I've seen News-Articles about people having tried and it didn't end well for them, to say the least.).
But the very definition of an "adult"/"(emotionally and otherwise) matured" human being, is that they have the cognitive capacity to actually make that important distinction, i.m.h.o. - and maybe the best way to "proof" it, would then be: have them fill out a survey about this important distinction and corporations would be legally off the hook basically. Those dumb enough to just "find the right answers" to gain access and then still act dumb, aren't their problem then anymore, I guess. I know, it sounds cold, but that's how this legal and corporate part of our world works. It's logical and subject to "good enough" implementations that show an effort to protect people from themselves. But, ultimately, a person, who is bent on trying, no matter the cost to themselves, will be crazy enough to circumvent any such "protective measures". And that important fact about human behavior also needs to be taken into account.
"People gonna dumb" ... in all the ways possible for them (some of which we might not even be able to imagine ourselves yet!) So, eventually finding a reasonable measure for trying to protect people from themselves should be legally good enough for anyone involved in such campaigns - because protecting kids is indeed important, but doing that non-intrusive to mature human beings, is a challenge, I can imagine. Might even be normal to have your eID checked at some point in the future, after all. Just hope it's not gonna be a fascist one, where this kind of "tracing" opportunity is abused to try and shame people publicly or something. Maybe it'll also force Morals to finally become less prude though, who knows? - The denial of consensual sex-positivity for religious reasons has been a bane on humanity for a few centuries at the least, after all...and it feels like we have to change this, if we want our species to survive and not annihilate itself by creating a World, that doesn't incorporate our entire humanity, but only allows for parts of it.
Ironically, those screaming loudest about limiting that, not surprisingly are also the greatest secret deviants and just get off on making it harder for everyone to get their rocks off, I hypothesize (we could call it a Sociopath's "Systemic Violence" kink maybe? 😏 ).
That's double sad cause I can't support and can't get the bit of extra content QQ
If you have Discord, and you can purchase our other games here on itch.io here's what you can do:
Purchase a copy of Prowler, or Snake:Byte and donate $4. That'll be equal to the same amount as the special build.
Take a screenshot of your receipt so we know it's you. Then send that screenshot to "regalbuster" on Discord. Then we might be able to give you a link to the file.
I already own Prowler. Is there a away how I can still donate with out buying the game again? I am personally not interested in snake:byte as it dose not fit in my preferences. If not I probably have to wait until I can buy the game when you are ready with it someday.
I THINK you can just chose to buy another copy of Prowler even if you own it. You don't need to download it afterwards, you can just ignore that. You could gift a copy to a friend too, if you'd like.
Either way works fine by us just as long as you share the receipt.
whohoooo
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA So happy! Going to try it rn, and even before playing, I'm sure it's perfect ^w^!
nice, like a demo of the remake